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PostSubject: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 2:45 am

What do YOU guys personally think?
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 2:56 am

No, I think evil is something we make up in our heads.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 3:02 am

I agree 100%. It's an illusion, both evil and good.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 9:16 am

Me too. If something is taken away from you, you think of it as "evil". If something is given to you, you think of it as "good".
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 12:39 pm

Yeah. Like this as well: Robin Hood is a great example. He steals from the rich to give the poor. The poor ones and us usually see him as this good and heroic figure. While the other rich men(in his time) saw him for an evil thief.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 1:00 pm

The good and the evil are relative values, their meaning varies with personal approach. Just as you guys said, but i a more "fancy" way. lol
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 1:55 pm

It's all about perception.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 4:09 pm

You guys are free to believe whatever you want but if you ever watch/read news, you would know evil is literally everywhere. As young souls, I understand being innocent (like angels) but try not to turn away from cruel reality no matter how old you are, especially because this is the period when terrible things are happening more and more, and the world will soon covered in a tremendous amount of sorrow - a lesson for humanity.

@ Nazir

I'm sure if you listen to your spirit deeply enough, you would know evil is everywhere - you told me people are calling you a fool, arrogant etc. I'm sure you already know the answer.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 4:15 pm

I may be things mate. That is my character. We all have a negative side, but I don't consider it evil. I consider it nature. Ying and Yang for example. There cannot be just positive things. There must be a negative part to bring balance. But not that I believe in good and evil though. That is just a human perception of things. And it has different meanings to everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 4:28 pm

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I may be things mate. That is my character. We all have a negative side, but I don't consider it evil. I consider it nature. Ying and Yang for example. There cannot be just positive things. There must be a negative part to bring balance. But not that I believe in good and evil though. That is just a human perception of things. And it has different meanings to everyone.

*sigh* misunderstanding again. I never said your negative side is evil. It is just like you said, your character. I'm sure I told you before, we are alike - both drawn to the dark side. That doesn't mean we are evil. I was calling those who called you arrogant and a fool are evil. I can definitely sense that you experienced such evil beings countless times - which made you dark, NOT that you are evil so you are dark.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 4:44 pm

I'm horrible with listening. Should learn that more often and understand what people mean. Sorry mate, I'll stay quiet next time and understand.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 5:14 pm

Nazir98 wrote:
I'm horrible with listening. Should learn that more often and understand what people mean. Sorry mate, I'll stay quiet next time and understand.

No problems!! And don't ever stay quiet - I like you actively participating in this forum expressing your opinions (although I think you meant 'you will stay quiet until you fully understand'). You just need to take more time before you conclude and speak - at least that's what I do.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 5:24 pm

Indeed my friend Smile.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySat Jan 04, 2014 5:53 pm

I think good and bad is based perception for which side you are on. To me evil is entirely different, like someone has an evil intention wanting to cause harm to others (and actually liking it). Its all within the intention..
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 1:12 am

R94A21: yes, our world is full of "evil" as yu said before. But what we meant is that your perception of what is good and whta is bad depends on you. We are not trying to escape from reality. I also think that evil is everywhere. But what we meant is something else. Ex: Hitler didnt think that what he did was bad, he probably thought it was the correct thing. But some people that weren't nazis thought the world was full of evil.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 2:00 am

I think the point being made is that evil is subjective. The Robin Hood example is a great example of this. Remember that we all have our own unique perceptions of reality.

Nobody thinks their actions are evil, everybody does what they feel is justified in the moment. Like Gus said Hitler probably felt justified that he was doing the right thing. Murderers probably feel that they had to kill someone because of x, y and z rather than for the sake of being evil.

Is a group of lions killing a baby water buffalo evil?
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 3:26 am

Nop. Nature.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 8:21 am

R9, you seem depressed...
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 1:01 pm

there is a fine line between being justified in what you do and being Pure evil, what hitler done was pure evil. some of the things like the killing the jews because they where nothing but a humble to there society, and killing the mentally ill because they weakened the german nation those things where evil
me being goth loving tattoos and piercings i would be justified in fighting for tattoos and peircings in the workplace or something like the gothic movement which i am apart of now that would be justified but killing millions of people for the sake of creating a Purebred society and ruling a thousand year Reich over the entire world is evil
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 1:42 pm

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R94A21: yes, our world is full of "evil" as yu said before. But what we meant is that your perception of what is good and whta is bad depends on you. We are not trying to escape from reality. I also think that evil is everywhere. But what we meant is something else. Ex: Hitler didnt think that what he did was bad, he probably thought it was the correct thing. But some people that weren't nazis thought the world was full of evil.

Oh ok in that case, there is clearly a universal morality and if you are against it, then you are evil. Smile

So the Hitler and Nazis may not have been aware of the universal morality which made them evil unknowingly.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 1:50 pm

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I think the point being made is that evil is subjective. The Robin Hood example is a great example of this. Remember that we all have our own unique perceptions of reality.

Nobody thinks their actions are evil, everybody does what they feel is justified in the moment. Like Gus said  Hitler probably felt justified that he was doing the right thing. Murderers probably feel that they had to kill someone because of x, y and z rather than for the sake of being evil.

Is a group of lions killing a baby water buffalo evil?

But there is a universal morality which only good people are aware of. That's why I keep thinking those who are ignorant tend to become evil because they are too stupid to understand what is right and what is wrong. For example, torture especially without any reason (Hitler at least had some weird reason for his wrong) is an evil act. Furthermore, there are people who simply ENJOY torturing and harming others. They are evil. Wink

If any of you guys can't agree with this, then IMAGINE some completely random person invading your home and start attacking your closest family members. Whether the attacker thought it was right for him/her or not, it was clearly against the universal morality.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 2:11 pm

Jake G. wrote:
R9, you seem depressed...

Not really. Just facing the dark reality. I do know there are still some good out there - probably including y'all. Again, things can't be just black and white and at this moment I'd say the majority people are neutral, but I sense the evil force is getting larger everyday on Earth - anyone who watches/reads news daily would know. People can turn evil at any moment with false justification - we see this more and more everyday, small to big evil acts; a neighbour who plays a really loud music just because he is about to go out in 30 minutes (small) and an ex-prisoner who rapes a girl only because he thinks he deserves it after abstaining from sex for a long time in prison (big).

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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptySun Jan 05, 2014 2:58 pm

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Mark Mauvais wrote:
I think the point being made is that evil is subjective. The Robin Hood example is a great example of this. Remember that we all have our own unique perceptions of reality.

Nobody thinks their actions are evil, everybody does what they feel is justified in the moment. Like Gus said  Hitler probably felt justified that he was doing the right thing. Murderers probably feel that they had to kill someone because of x, y and z rather than for the sake of being evil.

Is a group of lions killing a baby water buffalo evil?

But there is a universal morality which only good people are aware of. That's why I keep thinking those who are ignorant tend to become evil because they are too stupid to understand what is right and what is wrong. For example, torture especially without any reason (Hitler at least had some weird reason for his wrong) is an evil act. Furthermore, there are people who simply ENJOY torturing and harming others. They are evil. Wink

If any of you guys can't agree with this, then IMAGINE some completely random person invading your home and start attacking your closest family members. Whether the attacker thought it was right for him/her or not, it was clearly against the universal morality.

Yes, your right. And this is the ONLY thing that I would accept from any religion. Even Satanist(although most of them are just atheists) have the rule: DON'T HURT A SINGLE HUMAN OR TAKE A LIFE FROM ANY LIVING ORGANISM. Besides that, smoke your crack or do whatever you like as long as it doesn't bring damage to another.
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptyWed Jan 08, 2014 12:09 pm

I think Jesus nailed it when he said "Do unto others as you would have them to do unto you"
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PostSubject: Re: Is Evil Real?   Is Evil Real? EmptyThu Jan 09, 2014 5:59 am

its all about intention.. (fiz was spot on) if i decide to donate a million dollars to charity silently its a good act, now if i decide to donate and post it all over the place to better my image its an evil act.
the robin hood i watched they had to keep poking at where he got his gifts from. eventually he told and they praised him and he felt relieved that he wasnt seen as evil. althought the rich seen him as evil because of the act not the intention.

gust i love how you brought up hitler because what he did started as a good intention to get german's their jobs back but he coulda done a different approach. he had good intention for his own people, but he disregarded how to treat the others right.. its all frances fault >.< they drove jews into germany.

talking about hitlers tortures, slightly off topic, i read up on some of the torture experiments hitler did involving twins. (this ties into the illuminati thread(sry to bring it here)) he took all the jewish twins and split them up into groups one and two.
group one was to be observed as half of group two was tortured and the other half of group two was treated nice and having fun. he wanted to test if they had a strong psychic connection which they did. (would you consider this experiment a cruel act of evil or good intention to the pursuit of knowledge?) (also the nazi symbol we are all familiar with came from a chinese religion called falun dafa, which represents the world in motion)
i read an article about how the illuminati have this information, with it they made test tube clones of us using blood samples from blood donations, extracted the brain still fully functional and preserving it so they could connect to the originals persons thoughts. scary if that is actually true o.O

i like R94 he has a very similar mentality to me. im a very positive and upbeat person but i live in negativity. simple because ive dedicated myself to dealing with these 1% globalists. and the game is chess. stay ahead of your opponents moves and you win. granted im at a huge disadvantage with them at 10000+ while im just one, but that can also give me a slight edge like an assassin inside a crowd. but besides that there are alot more evil rising in the world like he mentioned and it will push the good people into negativity. it being my home i will know how to direct them out.
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