I've started training for telekinesis 2 days ago and I've had no progress what so ever. I've read ALOT of blogs, forums, websites and I've even been on YouTube. I can get the psi wheel to spin for NOTHING. Not even a little jiggle ; nothing. I believe fully in telekinesis but I'm getting no where. I've also heard that some times with different people it takes 6 weeks to months before they get any movement of any kind. But on my first day of training ( two days ago) I trained for 5 hours straight trying to get a push pin to tip over, a pen to roll, a piece of paper to fall down , and the psi.... Nothing happens at all and I had full concentration and motivation and visualization... I've also had a headache since that practice... Can anyone tell me what I'm. Doing wrong... I don't care who it is ... I'm in need of guidance....

it takes longer then 2 days to develop telekinesis my impatient young grasshoppa it takes weeks and months of practice you need will power belief in yourself, determination and an open mind to anything that comes your way!
id suggest opening your 3rd eye or your chakras if there not already opened

Don't worry, man!    I know that feel when you don't see the psiwheel moving: it can be frustrating and even take away some tears from you (true story  ), but it indeed takes more than 2 days, specially if you're just beginning and not practicing first the other meditations and opening the chakras.

Y'see... Well, I am no expert on the field, but so far, I've learned that, as nowforever13 said, you need to practice first the opening-chakras meditation (specially the third eye) to release the energies inside of you, and you also practice qigong to learn to move the energy around, inside of your body. Another guy from the forum, superbabilon, gave me the nice tip that, in order to release the energy from the hands, you gotta move them sloooooowwwwwllllyyyyyyy away from the psiwheel, and picture the energy coming out from your palms. I've started practicing it and it has moved A BIT the wheel, indeed. Maybe this could help you...?   

I agree, it took me awhile to do telekinesis as well, it just takes time

@kriklio1 yea man I ha d some tears too last night.. Lol. I guess I just expected it to come to me like after a few hours of trying but I have to remember that it doesn't work like that

@nowfoever13 thanks for the reply man, I'm hoping by the middle of summer this year I'll be able to do more than spin the psi wheel... When I get a good grip on this ability and finally move the wheel for the first time.

Good luck my friend! Dont loose hope! And where are you from?

It's not about time. It's about subconsciously understanding how things work and whether your brain can generate gamma waves for your subconscious mind to connect with your spirit which then can control the invisible energy as your subconscious mind wants.
The very first thing to control is the air around the object not the object itself.
What I posted in
https://psychicinvestigation.forumotion.com/t629-i-need-your-help
Might help you.

Gamma waves are more often seen in people who meditate a lot like monks. Also in people getting a seizure. So it's the 'trance' state which can generate the waves well.

Once you are able to create a little energy flux, you will easily increase that flux with everyday training; again not about time, subconscious understanding of how to control energy is the key to growing the energy flux through your body and your target. So let your mind learn Not force it to learn, and free your mind.

2 weeks training everyday is the usual time for first results

you need to do energy work before as well

@gustanak thanks buddy, and I'm from the south east

@r94a21 thanks for the info. My only problem I think is about the meditation and connecting with the object. I started at a push pin for about 10 minutes straight and I got an 'out of body' experience and then I snapped out of it... Idk what to make of that

@lee Ireland thanks for giving me a time frame man. And I will keep keep training till I see results. And then I keep training to build those abilities. I was hoping by December 2014 I'll be about to levitate coins

SelfishMachines wrote:

@nowfoever13 thanks for the reply man, I'm hoping by the middle of summer this year I'll be able to do more than spin the psi wheel... When I get a good grip on this ability and finally move the wheel for the first time.

just think man i can purify water to an extent i believed with all my heart and soul i could do it and i did i extracted the flouride smell and half of the flouride and chlorine taste, its a matter of belief and will power! with that you will do many things and do great things!

SelfishMachines wrote:

@lee Ireland thanks for giving me a time frame man. And I will keep keep training till I see results. And then I keep training to build those abilities. I was hoping by December 2014 I'll be about to levitate coins

no worries but that is just an average from what i have seen, energy work comes first then telekinesis otherwise you will be going quickly at the start but then it will just die out and come back ever so often but with energy work you get good all the time with a vary rare amount of times that you can't move anything.

don't get me wrong but even when you start moving you wont 100% understand how you did it, that comes months to a year or 2 until you fully understand.

its hard work but i tell you know when you start getting results its the best thing in the world.

do all telekinesis under glass because most the time if out of glass its not telekinesis and gains no ability at all,

for your energy work your going to need to first have a stretch then do some whole body breathing ( energy gathering ) then some either sit down chakra meditation or standing qigong meditation, some circulation or regulated breathing whilst gently jogging and then sink the energy. all of that i do before and pays off when im training. do the energy work until you are full ( when you have enough, feel heavy or generally cannot concentrate are usually the signs after the first month.

That is very true, after this 2 months of practices, I have been using alot of different techniques of telekinesis and they do work (most of the time), but I still dont understand "how" it works. By "how" that means to fully in control.

Awwww that's not true. Your subconscious mind knows how.
~('w')~

@fiz192 start to notice what is happening in the crown area when you are doing telekinesis, if you feel nothing do energy work as telekinesis is mainly controlled in the crown chakra. you can stop objects by using the base and crown together ( different levels of energy in the centres and differrent centres mixed together make different effects )

R94A21 wrote:

Awwww that's not true. Your subconscious mind knows how.
~('w')~

can i ask how long have you been doing telekinesis and who taught you?

well im not entirely sure, im not just feeling sensation on my forehead, when my energy level are high, i would feel sensation on my top and centre of my skull. more like pinching sense. where exactly this crown chakra sits?

lee ireland wrote:

R94A21 wrote:

Awwww that's not true. Your subconscious mind knows how.
~('w')~

can i ask how long have you been doing telekinesis and who taught you?

:O you already forgot me? It's me R9. We talked about me already.    

so the whole time you have been doing telekinesis is only since December ? no disrespect but no way you will understand telekinesis in that short time

lee ireland wrote:

so the whole time you have been doing telekinesis is only since December ? no disrespect but no way you will understand telekinesis in that short time

yeah that's what I'm saying "in that short time". I'm not saying that I understand telekinesis fully (you are right, I only started and if I understood telekinesis fully, then I would be levitating a car not just tin foils and straws LOL) but it's really not about time itself. Time helps you to adapt to the new ability, but for some people, it comes naturally without any training.

No disrespect either - you obviously work for a specialised institute and have been trained "professionally" but when it comes to psychic abilities, there's no strict rules you need to follow. Everyone, even in this forum, has a different approach how they hone their abilities. For example, some people say they can actually see the energy while others can't but have to 'feel' the object. In my opinion, letting yourself free to connect your subconscious mind and your spirit is the main key for any psychic abilities rather than following restrictive guidelines - and this is coming from a strictly trained scientist

I say your subconscious mind knows how telekinesis works because without knowing how to do it, you would never have done it. For example, a toddler who just started walking wouldn't know how he/she can walk "consciously" but the toddler knows how to walk "subconsciously". The toddler's subconscious mind knows the body can walk with enough muscle strength/coordination and support by the connective tissues and bones.

Also, I have to note that "knowing" and "understanding" are two different things. Knowing is much more intuitive while understanding is analytic and logical. For this reason, I say your subconscious mind "knows" how things work and it would be rather odd to say your subconscious mind "understands".

In the end, what we claim to know is what we consciously understand or logically interpret based on what we perceive. Even your "awakening" something post was about hologram universe theory.

R94A21 wrote:

lee ireland wrote:

so the whole time you have been doing telekinesis is only since December ? no disrespect but no way you will understand telekinesis in that short time

yeah that's what I'm saying "in that short time". I'm not saying that I understand telekinesis fully (you are right, I only started and if I understood telekinesis fully, then I would be levitating a car not just tin foils and straws LOL) but it's really not about time itself. Time helps you to adapt to the new ability, but for some people, it comes naturally without any training.

No disrespect either - you obviously work for a specialised institute and have been trained "professionally" but when it comes to psychic abilities, there's no strict rules you need to follow. Everyone, even in this forum, has a different approach how they hone their abilities. For example, some people say they can actually see the energy while others can't but have to 'feel' the object. In my opinion, letting yourself free to connect your subconscious mind and your spirit is the main key for any psychic abilities rather than following restrictive guidelines - and this is coming from a strictly trained scientist

I say your subconscious mind knows how telekinesis works because without knowing how to do it, you would never have done it. For example, a toddler who just started walking wouldn't know how he/she can walk "consciously" but the toddler knows how to walk "subconsciously". The toddler's subconscious mind knows the body can walk with enough muscle strength/coordination and support by the connective tissues and bones.

Also, I have to note that "knowing" and "understanding" are two different things. Knowing is much more intuitive while understanding is analytic and logical. For this reason, I say your subconscious mind "knows" how things work and it would be rather odd to say your subconscious mind "understands".

In the end, what we claim to know is what we consciously understand or logically interpret based on what we perceive. Even your "awakening" something post was about hologram universe theory.

then you have no reason to disagree to any of the things people say are good and bad for telekinesis, the institute along with other professional researcher / workshops have all came to the conclusion that energy works is the only way to sustain efficient telekinesis ability throughout.

a 50 year study made by the institute also showed that test subjects who did not use energy work had fallen in ability then lost it completely until they did the energy work.

the hologram universe theory is nothing like this, we have proof of the hologram theory but yet nothing solid with telekinesis as brain activity is different in all subjects.

if you do not use anything for telekinesis then you would have had a boost in ability from the start it will then go down, up again and down until it continues to go down until you cant move anything, you then question if you was moving the objects as your technique will no longer work... you will be able to move but only every so often after you have recovered.

but with energy work you can go up and up with only a few times that your ability is down

lee ireland wrote:

R94A21 wrote:

lee ireland wrote:

so the whole time you have been doing telekinesis is only since December ? no disrespect but no way you will understand telekinesis in that short time

yeah that's what I'm saying "in that short time". I'm not saying that I understand telekinesis fully (you are right, I only started and if I understood telekinesis fully, then I would be levitating a car not just tin foils and straws LOL) but it's really not about time itself. Time helps you to adapt to the new ability, but for some people, it comes naturally without any training.

No disrespect either - you obviously work for a specialised institute and have been trained "professionally" but when it comes to psychic abilities, there's no strict rules you need to follow. Everyone, even in this forum, has a different approach how they hone their abilities. For example, some people say they can actually see the energy while others can't but have to 'feel' the object. In my opinion, letting yourself free to connect your subconscious mind and your spirit is the main key for any psychic abilities rather than following restrictive guidelines - and this is coming from a strictly trained scientist

I say your subconscious mind knows how telekinesis works because without knowing how to do it, you would never have done it. For example, a toddler who just started walking wouldn't know how he/she can walk "consciously" but the toddler knows how to walk "subconsciously". The toddler's subconscious mind knows the body can walk with enough muscle strength/coordination and support by the connective tissues and bones.

Also, I have to note that "knowing" and "understanding" are two different things. Knowing is much more intuitive while understanding is analytic and logical. For this reason, I say your subconscious mind "knows" how things work and it would be rather odd to say your subconscious mind "understands".

In the end, what we claim to know is what we consciously understand or logically interpret based on what we perceive. Even your "awakening" something post was about hologram universe theory.

then you have no reason to disagree to any of the things people say are good and bad for telekinesis, the institute along with other professional researcher / workshops have all came to the conclusion that energy works is the only way to sustain efficient telekinesis ability throughout.

a 50 year study made by the institute also showed that test subjects who did not use energy work had fallen in ability then lost it completely until they did the energy work.

the hologram universe theory is nothing like this, we have proof of the hologram theory but yet nothing solid with telekinesis as brain activity is different in all subjects.

if you do not use anything for telekinesis then you would have had a boost in ability from the start it will then go down, up again and down until it continues to go down until you cant move anything, you then question if you was moving the objects as your technique will no longer work... you will be able to move but only every so often after you have recovered.

but with energy work you can go up and up with only a few times that your ability is down

Sounds interesting. I do ultra short meditations to get my brain into somewhat trance state. I might check Qigong stuff in depth since you say so. I'm happy that you finally explained some 'scientific' support for your energy works theory; before this post, you were like this is something you must follow, no why, just do it; with exaggeration of course

I never disagreed with anyone saying something is good or bad for telekinesis - so far, I accepted everyone's ideas in this forum. I said it's doesn't have to take long and people don't have to follow certain rules - I'm not disregarding your energy works theory but I just know that there are people who DON'T do energy works at all and yet continuously improve in telekinesis (early to tell but so far this apparently includes myself), especially spoon benders. So what I'm thinking now is that energy works can help with controlling the energy flux and thus helps it to accumulate at higher concentrations in body, but some people can naturally circulate energy to accumulate higher concentrations of energy subconsciously and unknowingly.

What I don't agree in terms of theory though is that when you do telekinesis, you already are flowing your energy to do telekinesis and while doing this, you naturally absorb energy back because of the flux created when using the energy [As far as I can understand, the invisible energy, much like heat, doesn't stay in one spot, they continuously flow from high to low concentrations (this is why I call it energy flux - flux via diffusion). ] - this means telekinesis doesn't have to be equal to energy waste but rather is similar to energy works like Qigong; the difference is you are more likely to lose the energy because you are focusing much on energy works outside your body and there's a tendency to forget absorbing the energy back to the body (which explains what your 50 year research showed).

Oh well, I gotta sleep now    - I started rambling pretty hard    Lee, we are on the same page, just difference in opinions when it comes to theories - I get what your research showed and the importance of energy works, which is why I appreciate what you have been contributing to this forum and why I will check out Qigong tomorrow, but you shouldn't disregard the outliers who never do energy works and yet accomplished a high standard of telekinesis.

Talk soon~
~('w' )~

Great discussion guys!