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PostSubject: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 10:35 am

I have a question for you guys, is it true that straws are more likely fake? I mean before I started using a straw I couldn't move it. Then once I had it somehow connected to my fingers and it followed like a magnet would. But now someone said on my youtube, that this is nothing more than static and straws are very sensible to it...

Would not explain the fact that it did not work before I started with TK! I never could move a straw before. He said I should instead take a wooden pen and try to spin it on my mouse, like I did with the straw. But I am not sure if my energy is yet good enough for a pen. When does one know that it's time to move up to heavier objects? I mean so far I can move feathers, paper and tin foil, but other than that nothing else moves. I saw a video of someone moving a soda can, it moved right with his hand. Like the straw would with my hand. But I wonder what is actually needed to move a soda can or heaver objects!
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 10:44 am

Both can be the answer. I have no problem with static electricity though it's not TK I can use it to boost my real telekinetic energy. It is often static electricity if you rubbed your hands before trying it on a straw. Illusionists love that trick. Cause it has an effect that looks like how we perform TK. So my opinion would be to avoid rubbing your hand and maybe just make a psi-ball without the rubbing when performing on straws. Papers can also move due static and heat. That's why you have to be very careful if you really want to put your telekinetic skills for a challenge. If you manage to move a pen balanced on something on a controlled condition(meaning no chances of blowing it unintentionally or wind from the area) then you can start considering TK. But just explore. And don't believe everything you see without a reason. Such as there are extraordinary people out there there are incredible scams as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 11:51 am

Yeah Nazir said it right. Practice is needed to move heavier objects, you know if you can move the heavier object by testing if you can. Lots of times it is just static if your hand is close to the straw, just practice farther away from the straw so static cannot affect it. Many things can be affected by static so just practice farther away from the object. Also make sure no wind could have possibly moved the object. When the object moves and, to a skeptic, seemingly has no explanation of moving you can consider it to be actual telekinesis. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 12:19 pm

When in doubt put the object under a glass covering like a bowl or vase. I got to confirm I was moving my psy-wheel and not using heat from my hands. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 12:23 pm

The thing is I am 100% sure that I am moving it! I mean after all I know how it felt in the beginning when I couldn't move a simple psi wheel at all! I mean literally at all! No tiny movement, not from heat of my hands nor from any other sources... Now I can look at it and it starts moving by itself almost! The same goes for anything else. I know how stubborn my straws used to be, no movement at all, also not from static of hands or whatsoever! Therefore I need to believe that it is me moving objects, as I know def. how it felt and looked like when I was in the complete beginning phase! Smile
I know that a feather does not lift up without any reason, when there is no wind or a wing that makes flapping motions! I also moved the psi wheel under glass, but it feels definitely more difficult that for sure!
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 12:55 pm

My opinion is that we get to know when its static. Dont let all this bother u. Just keep practicing and have faith in your abilities. Keep trying different objects to enhance your yk skills.
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 1:09 pm

Hi tanjeria,

I have already posted two my video. The first with static and second with no static.



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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyTue Aug 19, 2014 3:34 pm

Thank you so much gtr! That helped me a lot. Because now I see what people are talking about when they say STATIC! But I have to add, that I have seen both on my performances of TK on a straw! I can move it like you did in the none static, but also like in the static. The thing is I don't do anything to make it static. I don't rub my hands or anything. And it does NOT always work!
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyWed Aug 20, 2014 6:34 am

That person my friend is a troll, it would take some amount of static to move a straw... they never think of this though. For example when you rub a balloon on your jumper and then put it up to your hair it will stand, well it's even more static than that to move a straw! I think you probably could move a pen the same way to be honest but do it when you feel ready Smile.

It's the same with psi wheel videos done under glass, when I showed someone mine he said the same (just static) but that's rubbish because static doesn't go through glass, it's just very tiny sparks of electricity. If you tell them what I just said I bet you'd get them calling you all sorts, same happened with me. One good thing to do is google it, if you can't find it on any of the science websites it's definitely rubbish.
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyWed Aug 20, 2014 7:12 am

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That person my friend is a troll, it would take some amount of static to move a straw... they never think of this though. For example when you rub a balloon on your jumper and then put it up to your hair it will stand, well it's even more static than that to move a straw! I think you probably could move a pen the same way to be honest but do it when you feel ready Smile.

It's the same with psi wheel videos done under glass, when I showed someone mine he said the same (just static) but that's rubbish because static doesn't go through glass, it's just very tiny sparks of electricity. If you tell them what I just said I bet you'd get them calling you all sorts, same happened with me. One good thing to do is google it, if you can't find it on any of the science websites it's definitely rubbish.

To be honest this is kinda my problem with some believers. Some are doing the same as the debunkers! Some of the debunkers are so ignorant despite the proof you have. And some believers are willing to ignore all the proof of scams in the world as well. I consider myself an open-minded person. Most people misunderstoods this. In this case being open minded doesn't mean directly believing stuff. It is being a person who looks at both possibilities. This is one of the reasons I find mental illusionists interesting. Especially the one called Derron Brown. He showed that almost EVERY single paranormal things recorded in history have a logical explanation. From fake TK to ESP tricks and even seances.

(this is an other youtuber but for an interesting video of Derron Brown see his seance video. It's a long one)
Now I'm still an open-minded person. Despite the incredible ways of scamming these phenomenons, I still believe that there are more things to the natural order of life that are what appear to men 'mysterious' or 'paranormal'. But hope you got my point. You said there's like 80% no chance of static moving straws. This is where(I hate judging but I have to tell you) you are wrong. Countless of magicians perform fake TK with variety of methods. Either it's static, blowing, fake spoons(most spoon-bending illusionists. Fake spoons? wtf? They exists. They look like regular spoons but when touched by someone it starts to bend through human biological heat. Not like Uri Geller, he does it different) and more. So open up guys! There are scams such as there are real phenomenons. I usually wouldn't stress this much on it but this site was made by Mark to be an open minded site. So all opinions should be accepted if they are not represented in a rude/violent matter.
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyWed Aug 20, 2014 9:22 am

Tanjeria, I also have this feeling sometimes that it is static and at other times of telekinesis. I make a video of all my practice telekinesis, then I keep it that interests me. It allows me to see if I really do telekinesis. I'm about 3-4 practice session each morning. Sometimes in a session that moves a lot and I think that maybe it's static. But in the next session, nothing moves, or almost. So that's what allows me to be convinced that I'm doing tk, otherwise it budge throughout my sessions. I refer to my practice this morning with a big piece of aluminum foil on the table. It also has morning and there is a lot of energy and some less. I avoid as much as possible to move your hands and keep them still.
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyWed Aug 20, 2014 9:23 am

DevineMatrix I'll try to make a video tonight or tomorrow to show you that the static going very well through the glass. Interest in the paranormal does not mean believe anything. It is not by what it moves, it is imperative to telekinesis. Do not be naive, just take the time to ensure that there is no other factor that comes into play.
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyWed Aug 20, 2014 9:41 am

But on the contrary I have to defend this saying: Do not be naive and believe everything you see. It maybe true. But if it was not for videos that i found with 17 of some guy's doing TK on a PSI wheel I would have never progressed. It were these videos that opened it up for me at least! I always believed in it, even though I could not do it when I was a child.

But seeing ONLY ONE video if fake or not does not say anything, it opened it up for me and a still as rock paper suddenly begin to shake! I am not sure if I would have ever learned doing TK without all those wonderful videos online. Part of humanities problems is, that nobody believes in it and thinks that al videos that are online are fake! But that is not the truth.

There are many honest people on this planet, including myself who just record to keep a journal and see what works and what does not work. Recording the progress is the best way to compare to before! I myself know that the PSI wheel was NOT moving AT ALL, when I started out. In fact it was still and silent like a rock! Not even shaking was noticeable. And remember that I used the same hand movements as I am doing now.

After all it comes to one common thing: everything around us is energy: static, electricity, breath yes even your blood is very dense energy! And since this is the case, it does not matter how one does move things. because in the end it comes to your own belief, that YOU are in fact controlling the movement and even the direction. No static can do that, just by will stop something from spinning etc. Smile

Therefore I stay with my practice and let doubt just not come up not because of anyone saying so, and not because my sub conscious wants me to fail. I KNOW and that is important and key for success in TK!
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyWed Aug 20, 2014 9:48 am

The fact is that both the fake and the real videos videos can be faked. The solution is to experience things in your own.
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PostSubject: Re: Static and real TK - question   Static and real TK - question EmptyWed Aug 20, 2014 10:25 am

Haha, Tanjeria that's what I've been waiting for! Not just your answer. But this: "I won't bring doubt because someone said so." Because someone said so. Exactly. Stand up and question. You're being sharper over day. That's what I like. Sooner or later you will naturally get to the point I am with that characteristic Smile. Sharp, not accepting something because I see or hear it.
I want what you want, truth. And I know you already know the truth as well. These things are very natural and real. But on a branch of a tree, will you always find on every branch that every plant is alive? I want you to think about this and PM me if you wish.
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